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. >> all the big deal, boehner and obama tried to do last year, still have to do that, simpson boles-type thing. >> by what the secretary of the treasury said yesterday. >> right. >> thank you for being here. >> bromance. a lot of fun. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good thursday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street" live from the new york stock exchange, i'm carl kin ten nia with melissa lee, cramer and neighborer are off today but we are joined by dennis. good morning to you dennis, thanks for coming in. futures today, a lot to deal with as you probably know. the fiscal cliff headline watch continues. you just heard john kanas say the market not too concerned. futures up 21 points. decent data out of europe, we will talk about in a minute what a day for the asian markets again. also coming up. our road map begins at andrews air force base where the president arrives in a couple of hours, cutting his hawaiian vacation short to address the fiscal cliff s there really any hope in the last attempt? does the market fade if there's no news to
. >> all the big deal, boehner and obama tried to do last year, still have to do that, simpson boles-type thing. >> by what the secretary of the treasury said yesterday. >> right. >> thank you for being here. >> bromance. a lot of fun. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good thursday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street" live from the new york stock exchange, i'm carl kin ten nia with...
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president obama and congress return to work today with little progress seen on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff as the government starts taking steps to buy more time before the u.s. hits the debt ceiling. the yen hits a two-year low against the dollar as the new japanese government battles to weaken currency. exports are rising, pushing the nikkei to its strongest gain in 20 years. .shares of toyota are heading higher after the u.s. settled a class action lawsuit. the $1 billion payment is already priced in. okay. welcome to "worldwide exchange." plenty of news to watch out of washington. all of this week, we thought it would be a quiet one. but i won't be inside the beltway if they want to get something done. the u.s. will hit the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling come monday. in a letter to congressional leaders, geithner says treasury will begin taking steps to save the government about $2 billion. geithner says it's harder to predict a time frame because the ongone fiscal cliff talks make it difficult to forecast next year's budget. among the measures treasury will take including suspendin
president obama and congress return to work today with little progress seen on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff as the government starts taking steps to buy more time before the u.s. hits the debt ceiling. the yen hits a two-year low against the dollar as the new japanese government battles to weaken currency. exports are rising, pushing the nikkei to its strongest gain in 20 years. .shares of toyota are heading higher after the u.s. settled a class action lawsuit. the $1 billion payment is...
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president obama earlier on today saying it does appear a deal on the fiscal cliff is nearing. it is within sight. obviously a bit of work still to be done here. even mitch mcconnell says we are very, very close. so the markets have moved up on that hope we will get a done deal and avert the fiscal cliff. >>> positioning portfolios for the new year, i can majs is tricky right now. there's a lot of mess going on in d.c. we're going to help. we're going to give you the single best play for 2013. >>> and also next, two congressman, one democrat one republican. they're going to talk to us about the fiscal cliff. are they happy or sad? and can they rise above to get a deal done? "closing bell" will be back after this break. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 when i'm trading, i'm totally focused. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and the streetsmart edge trading platform from charles schwab... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 gives me tools that help me find opportunities more easily. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can even access it from the cloud and trade on any computer. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and with sch
president obama earlier on today saying it does appear a deal on the fiscal cliff is nearing. it is within sight. obviously a bit of work still to be done here. even mitch mcconnell says we are very, very close. so the markets have moved up on that hope we will get a done deal and avert the fiscal cliff. >>> positioning portfolios for the new year, i can majs is tricky right now. there's a lot of mess going on in d.c. we're going to help. we're going to give you the single best play...
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president obama and lawmaker will return to washington in hopes of inking a last-minute deal.
president obama and lawmaker will return to washington in hopes of inking a last-minute deal.
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you have obama coming back from his vacation to deal with the fiscal cliff. we have low volume situation which moves a little bit more exaggerated. i'm not putting a lot of stock into this move. i think it's a little overdone. >> jim, good to see you for a second time today. you're looking at the chart of crude. technically speaking how important is the move in your view? >> well, this is funny. you started out the conversation with saying how significant is the move? that's what i've been dealing with all day. you look at the chart. we've been in a pretty well defined trend channel for a month or so. right now we've come to the top of it. the market is telling us the news out of the middle east and the news on the fiscal cliff is a pretty big deal. now it's decision time. is it big enough to take it above 91.25 and settle there? if it can't do that, it will be considered a failure. i want to be short oil and i think 8620 would be the downside. >> on the up side we're watching 9125. now you know what our guys are doing. are you buying or selling crude surge t
you have obama coming back from his vacation to deal with the fiscal cliff. we have low volume situation which moves a little bit more exaggerated. i'm not putting a lot of stock into this move. i think it's a little overdone. >> jim, good to see you for a second time today. you're looking at the chart of crude. technically speaking how important is the move in your view? >> well, this is funny. you started out the conversation with saying how significant is the move? that's what...
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if the deal we're hearing about makes it out of the senate, will the house pass it? >> let's ask congressman john yarmuth. i want to ask you point blank. do you think president obama purposely slowed things down today? >> no, i don't think so at all. what i think he was trying to do was probably to try to send a signal to the democratic base that this didn't resolve the crisis that things were still in flux. that the spending portion of this dilemma, so-called sequester, is really critical to democrats. because democrats have compromised, given up an awful lot on spending programs that are important to us. if you do away with the sequester, you see what the alternative is. last week it was plan "b." it added money for defense. slashed money for education and food stamps and nutrition programs and medicaid. that is something that's great concern to democrats. >> what are they giving up on spending? >> what are we giving up on spending? well, actually, there's a $1.2 trillion on the table right now under our democrats who say let it go. let the across the board cuts ta
if the deal we're hearing about makes it out of the senate, will the house pass it? >> let's ask congressman john yarmuth. i want to ask you point blank. do you think president obama purposely slowed things down today? >> no, i don't think so at all. what i think he was trying to do was probably to try to send a signal to the democratic base that this didn't resolve the crisis that things were still in flux. that the spending portion of this dilemma, so-called sequester, is really...
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since that letter has won the election and now we're looking at the possibility of a mini deal that would get enacted before january 1st but so far all we've heard are the sounds of silence in the negotiations. a senior white house official told me today when i asked was there any holiday season progress, back channel progress over the past couple of days, got a one-word reply, no. second, the democratic senate leadership says there's a 50/50 chance that we'd get a deal between now and january 1st, but they don't have any progress signs to point to in a tangible way. that's sort of a gut feeling that that will happen, and senate republican leadership aides said we haven't heard anything from the white house or senate democrats, so right now it's looking stalemated. there still is time for people to come back and pass a temporary kick the can kind of solution that would at least get us past january 1st for a month, two months, three months, but we've got to wait and see over the next couple of days. president obama comes back tomorrow and the senate comes back late tomorrow, and then
since that letter has won the election and now we're looking at the possibility of a mini deal that would get enacted before january 1st but so far all we've heard are the sounds of silence in the negotiations. a senior white house official told me today when i asked was there any holiday season progress, back channel progress over the past couple of days, got a one-word reply, no. second, the democratic senate leadership says there's a 50/50 chance that we'd get a deal between now and january...
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view, could any of these sticking points be deal breakers? >> ah, yes. i think it's possible that they could be deal breakers. i don't think they will be, in the end. but there's serious disagreements. both sides are really digging in on the sequester cuts. that's a hard thing for republicans to come out, saying we're voting to raise taxes but we're not voting for spending cuts. democrats are saying, well, you're not raising taxes that much. in fact, way below what the president asked for and what speaker boehner offered in determines of additional tax revenue. i would expect they would get over that later tonight, but we don't know that for sure. and i do think, melissa, that going over the december 31st at midnight deadline has the potential for changing the dynamic a little bit, taking a little bitle of the urgency out of negotiations, especially for democrats, some of whom have felt, well, going over the cliff, we'll be in a stronger position. that's something to watch. >> john, keep us posted on everything coming out of d.c. john harwood
view, could any of these sticking points be deal breakers? >> ah, yes. i think it's possible that they could be deal breakers. i don't think they will be, in the end. but there's serious disagreements. both sides are really digging in on the sequester cuts. that's a hard thing for republicans to come out, saying we're voting to raise taxes but we're not voting for spending cuts. democrats are saying, well, you're not raising taxes that much. in fact, way below what the president asked for...
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even if we get a deal, what does this mean? it's a minimalist quick fix. it's not a debt and deficit grant grand bargain solution which obama and boehner were talking about weeks ago and it's probably not going to involve solving the debt ceiling problem. and, of course, we all saw what happened 18 months ago over the debt ceiling. it dragged on and on. bottom line, whatever happens in the next few days, markets, corporate america and consumers in america are probably going to have to deal with continued fiscal wrangling' in washington for weeks and weeks and weeks. >> we're going to talk more about the fiscal cliff and later on in the show. just coming back to europe for a second or touching on europe -- >> even more boring. >> because i'm quite looking forward to next year and i'm looking forward to hoping that we're not going to be sitting on politicians the same way we have over the last year, two years, looking at every single line that comes out of therefore mouths. i'm hoping we're going to see march of a sense of normality coming back into the euro
even if we get a deal, what does this mean? it's a minimalist quick fix. it's not a debt and deficit grant grand bargain solution which obama and boehner were talking about weeks ago and it's probably not going to involve solving the debt ceiling problem. and, of course, we all saw what happened 18 months ago over the debt ceiling. it dragged on and on. bottom line, whatever happens in the next few days, markets, corporate america and consumers in america are probably going to have to deal with...
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on fri, president obama said he still hoped to work out a deal to keep taxes for 98% of americans from going up on the first of january. but both sides aren't talking and congress is in recess until after christmas. republicans aren't holding out any hope for a deal. >> i would hope that we would have one last attempt here to do what everyone knows needs to be done, which is a larger plan that really does stabilize the debt and get us moving in the right direction. >> if we get down to the end of this year and the oil only choice we have is to save taxes going up on the middle class, then i would support that. but i wish we had a comprehensive bill that dealt with spending and entitlement altogether. >> i believe the president senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> some finger pointing. other republicans are now looking past new year's day to the next battleground. >> i will raise the debt ceiling only if we save medicare and social security and prevent this country from becoming greece. no more borrowing without addressing why we're in debt to begin with. that's where the rea
on fri, president obama said he still hoped to work out a deal to keep taxes for 98% of americans from going up on the first of january. but both sides aren't talking and congress is in recess until after christmas. republicans aren't holding out any hope for a deal. >> i would hope that we would have one last attempt here to do what everyone knows needs to be done, which is a larger plan that really does stabilize the debt and get us moving in the right direction. >> if we get down...
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obama is going to come out to say they have a deal, we don't know. but that's anticipation right in front of you on a stock chart. as the s&p 500 is the highs of the day, two-thirds of 1%, a gain of 9%. the dow was flat coming on the air at the top of the hour. here we go with a 54-point gain there. the dow is about to push back at 13,000. >> just within the last five minutes since you mentioned the obama press conference? >> absolutely. >> is obama going to have boehner with him? >> at the time, the market does not compare who is with him. >> so would he speak again if he didn't have good news? >> it has been almost 24 hours since he had a press conference. >> dr. jay, this is exactly what we talked about the last several days of not wanting to be short going into the weekend. dangerous position to be negative stock market when they are likely to announce something at some point, the size is the issue, obviously, but this just shows you what can happen to a stock market on a sniff of any positive news coming out of the nation's capitol. >> thomas le
obama is going to come out to say they have a deal, we don't know. but that's anticipation right in front of you on a stock chart. as the s&p 500 is the highs of the day, two-thirds of 1%, a gain of 9%. the dow was flat coming on the air at the top of the hour. here we go with a 54-point gain there. the dow is about to push back at 13,000. >> just within the last five minutes since you mentioned the obama press conference? >> absolutely. >> is obama going to have boehner...
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will congress and president obama be able to pull together a fiscal cliff deal in time? we'll let you know, when we come back. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >>> well, of course, it isn't just the fiscal cliff we're counting down to. it's new year's eve and we want to say happy new year to everyone who is joining us or watching the program here today. earlier, we asked have you made any resolution, trade or otherwise, for 2013. we've got a couple at least. one here from jeff who says i resolve to invest in pets and pampering. petsmart people love pets and profit from it. that's true, actually.
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president obama is coming back early as you mentioned, from his vacation in hawaii, but a senior white house official tells me they have seen no signs yet of progress toward a deal, so, everybody is going to have to wait for a couple of days. >> so, there's no indication at this point that there are any scheduled meetings tomorrow or anything to that effect, press conferences, news conferences to update the american people on what is going on in d.c.? >> everybody's got telephones, so, there's doubtless conversations going on. senate doesn't get back until late tomorrow. president gets back late tomorrow. the house is not back, but all of the leadership types, all the important players in any potential resolution of this are going to be in contact with one another and the likelihood that they will be in contact increases with every passing hour. >> john, stick around. i want to bring in anthony, who is on the desk here tonight. he was on the finance committee for mitt romney in his presidential bid. and what your sources are telling you is what in terms of if we reach a deal. >> i've t
president obama is coming back early as you mentioned, from his vacation in hawaii, but a senior white house official tells me they have seen no signs yet of progress toward a deal, so, everybody is going to have to wait for a couple of days. >> so, there's no indication at this point that there are any scheduled meetings tomorrow or anything to that effect, press conferences, news conferences to update the american people on what is going on in d.c.? >> everybody's got telephones,...
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see, in this market, it fell down after obama got reelected, but then it's been working its way back up. the fact is that i think a deal will get done and the key part is avoiding incomes under 250,000 and that's probably what they're going do. >> why is that market participant or are you speaking politically there? >> no, i'm speaking as a market participant because the spending for income for people under 250,000 in income is an important economy and that part of the economic spectrum and what they have in their pocket affects what they spend. >> and i get your point. we're a consumer-driven economy. broadway an kelly, your assessment about what happens if we don't get a deal? what happens in the markets? >> i think you saw it this morning and it looked like we're doing a full cliff dive and the market started to tank. i agree with the consumer. look at the consumer con if ied thens morning and that was driving this economy. we had consumer confidence at five-year highs and it was awful and all due to this uncertainty over the cliff. so if we can get some kind of deal that would be
see, in this market, it fell down after obama got reelected, but then it's been working its way back up. the fact is that i think a deal will get done and the key part is avoiding incomes under 250,000 and that's probably what they're going do. >> why is that market participant or are you speaking politically there? >> no, i'm speaking as a market participant because the spending for income for people under 250,000 in income is an important economy and that part of the economic...
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obviously obama care is signature legislation. cornhuskers, a lot of back room deals. but after 25 days of straight debating, they did pass it on christmas eve. i guess this bill just wasn't as important. carl, back to you. >> i'll take it, rick. thank you. rick santelli. coming up next why some people are wishing for a yellow christmas this year. and don't forget to tweet us. the financial times says toy makers are trembling as tots turn to tablets instead of traditional toys this holiday season. kids who don't want toys? as tots trade toys for tablets we wonder what is up with kids these days. tweet us and let us know what you think at squawk street. we have some of those answers right after this. ♪ why can't they be like we were perfect in every way ♪ hunger and diabetes.anage >>> most people are dreaming a white christmas but some are dreaming of a yellow christmas, the kind that comes in a little blue box. robert craig explains in today's million dollar minute. >> reporter: this holiday season some of the biggest gifts come in the smallest packages. yellow dia
obviously obama care is signature legislation. cornhuskers, a lot of back room deals. but after 25 days of straight debating, they did pass it on christmas eve. i guess this bill just wasn't as important. carl, back to you. >> i'll take it, rick. thank you. rick santelli. coming up next why some people are wishing for a yellow christmas this year. and don't forget to tweet us. the financial times says toy makers are trembling as tots turn to tablets instead of traditional toys this...
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chuck wants us to do a deal like obama care where you bring in both sides and you think about all the -- you know, all the ideas from the republicans, all the ideas -- and then you adopt a bipartisan plan. >> did you read "the wall street journal" over the weekends? >> i did. >> boehner says i've given you $800 billion. >> what did it remind you of? >> that's some caddie shack. where spalding walks up to the shack and said i want a cheese birg, milkshake and fries. and his grandfather says, you'll get nothing and you will like it. you know what it reminds me of? elections have consequences. i won. it's not a nice tack to the center where i'm going to govern for all of you. are you coming back? >> i'm going to. >> the jacket is coming off, though, right? >> christmas eve and i'm celebrating. as you know, we had the tree going this weekend with the lights on. >> that's so nice. there's one other thing i sought on that thing over the weekend that you brought us that i was going do -- oh,no. did you see mitt romney did not want to run? >> i saw that. that was in the boston globe. that was
chuck wants us to do a deal like obama care where you bring in both sides and you think about all the -- you know, all the ideas from the republicans, all the ideas -- and then you adopt a bipartisan plan. >> did you read "the wall street journal" over the weekends? >> i did. >> boehner says i've given you $800 billion. >> what did it remind you of? >> that's some caddie shack. where spalding walks up to the shack and said i want a cheese birg, milkshake...
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the house will be back in session on sunday to try to deal with the issue. we haven't had enough time, you know, two years. when is the last time we had a budget? >> harry reid was just -- wasn't he great yesterday talking about mitch mcconnell and the republicans? no budget. >> and more than 14,000 longshoremen could go on strike this weekend because of a contract dispute. a walkout would close cargo ports. some estimates say a strike could cost the economy $1 billion a day. which would add up. it would kind of counteract the 85 billion. but bernanke is doing 2 billion a day, right? >> more. >> 2.5, yeah. so that would take away -- we could easily rachet it up. unless the printing presses overheat at that point. let's check on the markets this morning. the futures were indicated lower based on angst. there it is worse. it was down 40 earlier, not out 62. they were down 150 at one point. came back down to 18. we're somewhere. >> between there. let's check out some of these other boards that maybe we missed in the last hour. europe, europe is even moving on a
the house will be back in session on sunday to try to deal with the issue. we haven't had enough time, you know, two years. when is the last time we had a budget? >> harry reid was just -- wasn't he great yesterday talking about mitch mcconnell and the republicans? no budget. >> and more than 14,000 longshoremen could go on strike this weekend because of a contract dispute. a walkout would close cargo ports. some estimates say a strike could cost the economy $1 billion a day. which...
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>> melissa, we're hearing signs of optimism about a potential deal. somewhere with an income tax threshold in the $400,000 to $500,000 range, not the $250,000 that president obama had been insisting on. although a source familiar with the talks told me a few minutes ago, if it goes between 400 and 500, democrats would get the full increase to 39.6. that is the clinton era rate, extension of unemployment benefits and increase in the estate tax. still the signs are that something is going to happen. in fact, bob corker, the senator from tennessee, was on with joe and i here from washington on "squawk box" and said there will be a deal, even if one that doesn't solve all of our long-term debt and deficit problems. here's bob corker. >> i do think there's going to be a resolve to this. the problem is, you know, we created this fiscal cliff to make some tough decisions. and none are going to be made. not one. >> so the question is going to be then, do the tough decisions on spending get made in january and february, running up to the debt limit. we'll see
>> melissa, we're hearing signs of optimism about a potential deal. somewhere with an income tax threshold in the $400,000 to $500,000 range, not the $250,000 that president obama had been insisting on. although a source familiar with the talks told me a few minutes ago, if it goes between 400 and 500, democrats would get the full increase to 39.6. that is the clinton era rate, extension of unemployment benefits and increase in the estate tax. still the signs are that something is going...
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care deal. and the ryan budget deferred all of the cuts in social security and medicare way out in the future. >> well, first of all, you're talking about social security and medicare, and the ryan budget was silent on social security. actually thought we should have talked about it. those things are always in the future. you start adjusting eligibility rates over time. >> what are the ten-year entitlement savings right now? >> well, frankly, honestly, if you did lower the age, number one, that would start right at the very end of that window. secondly, you can do -- we want means testing. we've never made any bones about that. that hits mostly upper income people. but we haven't seen it and we haven't been able to get it through. the cpi thing is another one. there's a whole variety of things you can do. they've got to be done in a bipartisan way. they've got to protect current recipients and be phased in. >> do you think that republicans -- entitlement -- >> in fact if you look at the letter s
care deal. and the ryan budget deferred all of the cuts in social security and medicare way out in the future. >> well, first of all, you're talking about social security and medicare, and the ryan budget was silent on social security. actually thought we should have talked about it. those things are always in the future. you start adjusting eligibility rates over time. >> what are the ten-year entitlement savings right now? >> well, frankly, honestly, if you did lower the...
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but president obama coming back from vacation in hawaii. that's an indication that some kind of deal -- however small -- is definitely coming. i want to point out, and i know you've been negative on this mastercard data on retail sales, and everybody thinks it's going to be a mess for the holiday season. i want to point out that the stocks are not acting that way. that this is a disaster for the season. the s&p retail index hit an historic high on december 3rd. historic high. since then, it has only been down about 3%. these stocks are not acting like there's a disaster. i can give you several reasons why they're not down so far. number one, we are going to see eps growth in the fourth quarter from some of them because of the extra week that there is. number two, we've had much lower cotton costs this year. their overall costs are lower. that's helping their earnings. number three, inventory levels are much lower. and that's going to help their gross margins. number four, we had pretty good gdp numbers in q-3. number five, home prices are i
but president obama coming back from vacation in hawaii. that's an indication that some kind of deal -- however small -- is definitely coming. i want to point out, and i know you've been negative on this mastercard data on retail sales, and everybody thinks it's going to be a mess for the holiday season. i want to point out that the stocks are not acting that way. that this is a disaster for the season. the s&p retail index hit an historic high on december 3rd. historic high. since then, it...
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they want a two-year deal because no one wants to keep running on this stuff. and most importantly, to president obama, he has a state of the union and an inauguration speech to give. he wants to work on his legacy, not on this. >> so what -- you just said that the republicans really did just play right into the hands of the democrats. is that what you said? >> well, i think they fumbled the ball a little bit in their negotiations. i think, for example, even the optics of it, having president obama back in washington today, and having congress still out, is not the right message to end. people right now feel that the republicans are the party of no, that they are the ones causing this, they are going to get blamed. the fact of the matter is, is that they are doing the fiscal responsible thing here and that's where they can hang their hat. is that they have to hold on for deficit spending, and they still have the debt ceiling to hold in their back pocket if they need to. >> so what would, if you had been advising boehner, what would you advise him to say yes to?
they want a two-year deal because no one wants to keep running on this stuff. and most importantly, to president obama, he has a state of the union and an inauguration speech to give. he wants to work on his legacy, not on this. >> so what -- you just said that the republicans really did just play right into the hands of the democrats. is that what you said? >> well, i think they fumbled the ball a little bit in their negotiations. i think, for example, even the optics of it, having...
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drone war at home for deals to build unmanned aircraft for domestic use. the faa says there could be 30,000 uavs in u.s. skies by 2020. the teal group says domestic drones could be worth $89 billion over ten years, as everyone from homeland security to tmz wants permission to use them. >>> let's get some more insight on the defense skprkt how to play it as the fiscal cliff deadline grows closer. howard rubel is with jeffries. great to speak with you. and i guess key to understanding the impact on these individual stocks, as jane had pointed out in her piece, is to understand which programs might be protected, even with budget cuts that the industry is facing. the f-35, for instance, is one that might be protected. walk us through. which ones had the most protected streams of revenue? >> frankly, many of them do at the moment, because the pentagon has been very busy signing production contracts to get under the wire of the sequester. >> so, for instance, the general dynamics deal that was selling to the navy for the submarine, those funds are, in fact, prot
drone war at home for deals to build unmanned aircraft for domestic use. the faa says there could be 30,000 uavs in u.s. skies by 2020. the teal group says domestic drones could be worth $89 billion over ten years, as everyone from homeland security to tmz wants permission to use them. >>> let's get some more insight on the defense skprkt how to play it as the fiscal cliff deadline grows closer. howard rubel is with jeffries. great to speak with you. and i guess key to understanding...